Daggerboard update

Discussion in 'Sunfish Talk' started by mixmkr, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Decided to bite the bullet. Will see how it turns out. Glassing the "old" board for more surface area and will treat the edges as best possible too.
     

    Attached Files:

  2. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Looks rough now!! Just slammed in some glass "slurry" as a core. Smooth, fair, layer of glass overall...etc
     

    Attached Files:

  3. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Other side.
     

    Attached Files:

  4. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Oh....here is how it was...
     

    Attached Files:

  5. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Might as well post pics in no partcular order :)
     

    Attached Files:

  6. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ha!
     

    Attached Files:

  7. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Well....had to do a little grinding before dark....
    Start fairing tomorrow. At least it still fits in the trunk!.. so that's a good sign!
     

    Attached Files:

  8. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Think I'll just hog this thread!
     

    Attached Files:

  9. Light and Variable Winds

    Light and Variable Winds Well-Known Member

    Likes Received:
    138
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Be my guest. 'Didn't want to interrupt your work. ;)

    I take it you're using the old board as a core, and adding a "slurry of fiberglass" to the margins, then fairing the margins to shape a modern daggerboard? 'Confused as to the use of "a core", when you've really adding to the margins. Also confused as to the makeup of the "slurry". :oops: Why is it that color?

    Trouble is, as soon as the mahogany gets a trace of water in it, the wood swells, and pops the fiberglass off the wood.

    I prefer using the rounded board; therefore, I would have started with either of my Barrington or Shadow boards, and sanded the bleep out of it.

    .
     
  10. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    My MEK is red...and gives the finished fiberglass a mahogany color. The board was sanded well at the edges too so there is plenty of fairing and material to adhere to. Water will never find its way to the wood. Fairing and final coating with West Sys with white pigment in it. Ive added lots of extensions in the past and this wont come apart unless I slam into a rock at 6kts. The trunk might suffer more. Im also adding cloth over the "splice" as well. I might have done something more industrial but this hopefully will do. The board as was...chattered away...so either modify or buy the glass board. The old board as a core just saved me time and materials and gave me an easy size reference without measuring every other minute. Its done enough to try tomorrow...so we will see. Should be 15kts and sunny tomorrow.
     
  11. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    One quick sand before test sail. If ok final coat of West with white pigment
     

    Attached Files:

    • Creative Creative x 1
  12. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    I realize the Sunfish glass board has a different bottom profile as well. Im experimenting. Now its the 44 inches (added another 5) but may extend slightly more too if this helps out. Able to better round the leading edge now too and taper the aft.
    If it doesnt chatter and point higher, I'll be thrilled.
     
  13. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Great success!!! In 15+kts and maybe gusts as strong 25...NO DAGGERBOARD CHATTER! Even if it didnt sail better, this effort totally worth it. At times I got knocked in strong gusts a could clearly see the board....and kinda playing around wanted to stress the board as much as possible. Without going over I was able to almost pop it out of the water....just to look at it and check on it. I want to think I could point 5 degrees higher and less sideways slip for sure. Im thrilled. A final West System coat will tighten things up just perfect and give a uniform color
     
  14. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Post sailing
     

    Attached Files:

  15. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gelcoat sprayed. Final sand and buff next.
     

    Attached Files:

    • Like Like x 2
  16. Light and Variable Winds

    Light and Variable Winds Well-Known Member

    Likes Received:
    138
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Which way is forward--and--did you switch it around?
     
  17. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    long edge forward. My first picture shows port side. My retaining clip is on starboard.
    I may get "fancier" with the bottom edge profile during the off season, but its working well like this too
     
  18. Webfoot1

    Webfoot1 Active Member

    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Interesting, you don't seem to have reached the length limit yet. When the board is
    too long you'll get a really 'tippy' Sunfish in higher winds.
     
  19. mixmkr

    mixmkr Active Member

    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Its 44" at its' longest point. How much is "too" long and why would it become more "tippy"?
    Obviously I dont care about class legal. Id make it 6" longer if ut would point higher and slip less. Draft isnt an issue usually
     
  20. Webfoot1

    Webfoot1 Active Member

    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Too long is when the boat becomes over-sensitive to tack and wind changes.
    The dagger board is part of the stability in how the boat heals over in
    response to gusts and how much of the wind gust is translated into forward
    motion. It's all a compromise and 'too long' will vary with the wind conditions. The
    good part is you can adjust the dagger board by pulling it up, at least until
    clearing the boom becomes a issue. At some point the Lanteen Sail is going
    to be the limiting factor no matter how long the daggerboard is. Right now
    you're the house expert in longer dagger boards so I'm eagerly looking forward
    to your future experiments.
     
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page